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Psychiatric Drugs And Violence

Dr. Joseph Mercola at Food Consumer has a post up on prescription drugs to avoid due to a study linking them with acts of violence. The heading to his post, a top ten list, is These Popular Drugs Can Make You Violent—Avoid Them. He got his list by beheading a list of 31 drugs disproportionally, as he puts it, linked to violence.

Most of the drugs on Dr. Mercola’s list are anti-depressants and stimulants and, therefore, psychiatric drugs. Although there are no neuroleptic (sometimes referred to as anti-psychotic) drugs in this list of the top offenders, if you go to the original list of 31 drugs you will find them.

The entire list, I’ve posted it below, can be found at the Alliance for Human Research Protection website in an article on the above mentioned study, 31 Prescription Drugs Linked To 387 Homicides. The drugs are listed in decreasing order of likelihood for causing violent behavior.

Chantix (Varenicline) _________18.0
Prozac (fluoxetine) __________10.9
Paxil (paroxetine) ____________10.3
Amphetamines _______________9.6
Mefoquine (Lariam) ___________9.5
Strattera (atomoxetine) ________9.0
Halcion (triazolam) ____________8.7
Luvox (fluvoxamine)__________ 8.4
Effexor (venlafaxine) __________8.3
Pristiq (desvenlafaxine) ________7.9
Zoloft (sertraline) _____________6.7
Ambien (zolpidem) ____________6.7
Lexapro (escitalopram) ________5.0
Celexa (citalopam) ____________4.3
Abilify (aripiprazole) ___________4.2
OxyContin (oxycodone) ________4.1
Wellbutrin/Zyban (bupropion)____ 3.9
Geodon (ziprasidone)__________ 3.8
Ritalin/Concerta (methylphenidate) 3.6
Remeron (mirtazapine) _________3.4
Neurontin (gabapentin) _________3.3
Keppra (levetiracetam) _________3.3
Valium (diazepam) _____________3.1
Xanaz (alprazolam) ____________3.0
Cymbalta (duloxetine) __________2.8
Klonopin(clonazepam) __________2.8
Risperdal (risperidone) _________2.2
Seroquel (quetiapine) __________2.0

Note that among these drugs numbers 15, 18, 30 and 31 (Abilify, Geodon, Risperdal, and Seroquel) are neuroleptic drugs.

Apparently people don’t just commit acts of violence because they’ve “gone off their meds”, some people have done violence to others while they were “on meds”.

10 Responses

  1. What a crock. Utter quackery.

    Do nyou know what else those people were “on” when they committed acts of violence?

    milk and other dairy products
    coffee, tea, cocoa
    numerous vitamins and minerals
    meat products

    I suggest you stop reading blogs by quacks or magazine reportes and start to look at real research.

    • You neglected to include preservatives, additives, and pollutants among your list of possible aggravants contributing to violence in society. I’m not here to leap to judgment. I’m only relaying the results of scientific inquiry and study.

      SSRI anti-depressant drugs have had the government put little black warning boxes on their bottles because of adverse and violent reactions to those drugs. Were there little evidense to support the fact that sometimes these drugs trigger violence, they wouldn’t be there. The pharmaceutical companies would certainly make sure that their products had no such black boxes. The black boxes speak for themselves.

      Stimulants are known for triggering aggravated and violent behavior. Stimulants are used in the treatment of ADHD.

      The paper produced by the study, a meta-analysis I believe, that the Alliance for Human Research Protection covered, is online. Anybody can access it at PLoS One, Prescription Drugs Associated with Reports of Violence Towards Others.

      I would hardly call the scientists behind this research quacks. Where’s your “real” research, sir?

    • Yo djbaxter, it might be that that people who commit acts of violence all got out of bed earlier in the day.

      You might want to study logic. You might want to rethink what you think you know about cause and effect.

      There may be such a thing as an “arrow of time”. But you want to think very carefully before you come to any conclusions that you may think are evident.

      For the most part it doesn’t matter. The women you fuck and the men you drink with don’t understand it either. So you are OK.

      Eat shit.

  2. I’ve been forced to take Depakote and Risperdal before. The only reason I didn’t kill the shrink while I was on them was that he was a sub-human piece of crap that wasn’t worth sullying my hands over. I think he finally got the message because I don’t have to put up with him any more.

    • Hi Marlboro, you know me. How are you doin’?

      Yeah, the best reason…. and probably the only good reason not to kill a coercive shrink is that it will give the other surviving shrinks more power.

      Shrinks want “patients” to kill shrinks. They know that it will give them more power to clamour. They just gamble that it wont be them. They hate each other because each and every coercive shrink knows himself and his peers to be imbeciles.

      In Australia we have a few cases that are being studiously ignored.

      There was a guy recently who threw his own 4 year old daughter off about a 100 metre drop off a bridge. He was a guy that had a job and a vehicle and three kids in the car at the time. He handed himself in at a law court a short time later.

      There’s another guy who while a prisoner in a forensic facility in Melbourne stabbed and killed two other “patients”.

      More recently there is a case of a guy who stabbed and killed a 60yo male psych nurse in a coercive facility in NSW in Australia. They (the blockheads) say that the 60 yo male was killed saving the life of a 20 yo female worker. Yeah right!

      What we can’t get is any reasonable account of what actually happened. And I know from things that I have actually witnessed that they are not reported accurately.

    • Hey Marlboro, I’ll give you an eafull.

      Naaah I’m too tired…

    • Neuroleptic drugs are not candy. They are also not medicine. People prescribed these drugs by doctors are not really being told the facts about what they do. Informed consent doesn’t tend to be truly informed. The problem is you’ve got doctors attributing damage done by psychiatric drugs to damage done by “the disease”. You have to treat patients without drugs before you can reliably make such a distinction. Treating patients without drugs is not something our current crop of doctors has been good at doing. All you have to do to get some sort of idea as to how bad these drugs can be is to glance at the side effects listed on the ads by the drugs companies that manufacture them. Those side effects should be enough to give anybody pause.

      Risperal is an atypical neuroleptic, and I’ve heard all sorts of horror stories about it. Depakote is a (anti-convulsive) mood stabilizer, and I’ve heard bad things about it as well. Atypical neuroleptic cause a metabolic syndrome associated with all sorts of ill health conditions while mood stabilizers have ill effects of their own.

      Better than killing your shrink, I imagine, are the actions you took. You withdrew from the drugs and you stopped seeing your shrink. I’d say that’s a happy ending all the way round. Let dupes be dupes, and bygones be bygones, so long as you know what works for you. Apparently it isn’t psychiatric drugs and shrinks. Many people, in my view, would be a lot better off if they felt the same way.

  3. Hi Frank, I’m out of order and off topic but I found a guy in Vancouver and his story is horrendous.

    He’s about our age and like you and I he is one of the good guys.

    He managed to cobble together an account of his shit over about 13 years in British Columbia. He admits to being a bit of a flake but if you are prepared to spend about 25 hours reading his account I think you will agree that he has case. Even if the REALITY is that his case is futile.

    His blog will point you to a “website” that gives a pretty coherent account of his life. I don’t think he’s a scammer. He doesn’t even seem to be psychotic. And neither after reading 25 hours do I think he’s a psychopath. AND there is very definitely something very corrupt going on in BC. (OK, you and I know that there is corruption every where…)

    I’m worried about him because he last posted in December and he was getting dangerously close to provoking the kind of fury that could lead to his murder by the state.


    • A heck of a lot of people have had their lives disrupted by the psychiatric system in ways similar to this guy in Vancouver. A whole lot of people are in precarious spots today because they have been unable to completely recover from the effects of this disruption. The mental health/illness system is in no small measure the reason why this is so, and so I would advise people to put as much distance as possible between themselves and it.

      The legend at the top of the blog says, “Take A Gamble On The Crazy Train Of Life”. The tab says, “A Victim’s Tale”, and perhaps the author is Kevin J. Barr.

      I doubt the state has assassinated him. On his last post he seemed to have had a bad case of the Christmas blahs. He was still visiting doctors, and trying to get off psychiatric drugs. He mentions an upcoming doctor visit, and so hospitalization is not out of the question. What’s reasonable to you and me isn’t always reasonable to the doctor.

      That’s one explanation, but by no means the only one. Blogs come and go, and people lose interest in maintaining them. His last post was on December 2010. He could, thinking optimistically, just be on extended hiatus.

      • You’re probably right. I got involved with his story (and it is about 350 pages). He’ll probably turn up.

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